Monday, October 1, 2007

Bill Cosby

This is my daily rant about something that pissed me off, I almost think this is kind of therapeutic.

Cosby clips:http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=4235750

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3194001
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4628960


Bill Cosby

All around this entire world Black people are poor and white folks are for the most part financially secure. Anywhere you go on this earth Black people are going to be poor, it doesn’t matter if you in America or South Africa, Haiti or South America, we all are poor. In the US 42% of Black children live below the poverty line. Bill Cosby’s comments, at Howard and a variety of other places, reflect his disconnection from the everyday life of most Black people in America and around the world. The reality is that the problems that exist in the “lower class” are economic, and this problem is imposed on us by the white power structure not only in America, but all over the world. Not because we don’t work as hard or because we came to work late, but because this is the way the system is currently designed to operate.
Cosby criticizes the community for having sectors that drop out of school, he obviously is not aware of the conditions of public schools. He also must not be aware or doesn’t care about the mis education that goes on inside of these schools. Who would want to sit through class, and be subjected to a teacher trying to explain why Imperialism was good for Africa? Who would want to enter a school where the police search you everyday like you were entering the county jail? The fact is that if every Black man graduated high school and college it would be enough jobs to support the influx of graduates. Is that a coincidence, I don’t think so. The white power system is designed to keep us disenfranchised.
That’s not to say that we shouldn’t strive to receive an education, but we have too look at the bigger picture. You can’t blame the oppressed for their situation you must blame the oppressor. You can’t blame a twelfth grader that can’t read for his lack of skills, you must blame the system that allowed this injustice to take place. Some of you are saying to yourself what about the parents? Statistics say that if a child can’t read odds are the parents can’t either. The statistics also say that those same parents either went to the same high school as the children, or within five miles. How many people do you know that have family that have lived in the same area for generations. The same foolishness that was going on back when you grandma was young is the same thing going on now.
Bill Cosby calls for more Black male teachers, I agree. But, I also understand that even if we had 1,000 more Mr. Jackson's or Mr. Williams it wouldn’t be enough to change the circumstances for the masses of Black people in this country. Would things improve for the students in those specific classrooms, potentially, but we are talking about 1 or 2 teachers out of an entire day and school year of BS. Hiring more Black teachers, can’t be the solution, similar to hiring more Black police officers. Do we need them, absolutely, but it would be foolish to believe that the problem would be solved if only WE did a little more. We have been doing a whole lot, if wealth was generated by how hard you work, WE as a people would be extremely wealthy.
Bill Cosby also discusses the amount of Black men in prison. His analyzes does nothing but let the white power structure off the hook. Economic develop, as opposed to police presence will decrease the number of Black and Brown men in prison. No one grows up saying they want to be a pimp or a drug dealer. Most young men have aspirations of great goals. The economic situation inside of the Black community fosters an environment where an illegal economy is almost necessary for the community to survive. This type of behavior is clearly unacceptable, but what alternative means of income are available to some of these young men. (Drug dealers, pimps, and thieves support the white power structure also, but that another topic)
Bill Cosby would make the argument that each individual has a choice to make, and if you make the wrong choice it’s your fault. Following that logic everywhere on earth Black people are making the wrong decisions, and white people are making all the right decisions. That logic seems pretty irrational. The prison system is economically supporting the white community. Without the prisons many counties all across this country wouldn’t be able to support itself. The situation that currently presents itself in the Black and Brown community would then be transferred to their community.
Prisons need clientele and Black and Brown faces make perfect since in the mind of white power. The fact is the white people engage in more criminal activity than any Black person ever could. Blue collar crimes, white collar crimes, and drug activity are more prevalent in the white community than the Black community. Why is it then that the police infest our neighborhood looking for criminals, while ignoring the white community, where the real criminals reside? The goal is to criminalize us, in order to make us believe our condition as a people are our fault and that if we just got our act together we would be alright. I say that’s B.S and Bill Cosby should get called out for his support of the white power structure.
Do we need a value check in our community? YES!!! Do we need to take more responsibility for our families, neighborhoods, and neighbors? YES!!! Will all these wonderful things correct the institutional ills? NO!!! Instead of spending so much time attacking what clearly is primarily an economic problem, lets attack the institutional level that cause all these problems. Let’s not continue to beat, the beaten, nothing constructive can come from that.
Bill Cosby is the undisputed champion of donations made to HBCU’s (Historically Black Colleges and Universities). He has been an advocate of education for as long as I can remember, and I’m sure many years before that. I believe that his heart is in the right place, most of the time, but I also think that his head is in the clouds. It easy to say praise his value system, with all the money that he has in the bank. Money won’t solve every problem, but it does have the potential to create a school system that teaches about our greatness, maybe a hospital that actually focuses on diseases and conditions that affect us, or a farm where we can grow and raise food that doesn’t contribute to our demise. Bill Cosby has the ability to contribute to change in a huge way, and in many aspects he has. But, as he gets older his attack of the people that should be defended and helped has become more vicious and personal. If he has lost vision of what is important, then he needs to move out the way.

Marvo

On a side note Cosby was the start of this debate around “Black” names. No need to re hash that, I talked about that yesterday. I really think writing these little blurbs helps my blood pressure LOL. I always feel like I’ve let off a little bit of steam. I’m going to confront my co worker from yesterday, after school lets out, its always good to give yourself sometime to cool down. Those that know me, know what I mean. Thanks for reading!!!!

8 comments:

Milli said...

Ok, well I just actually read what Bill Cosby said, and truthfully, I figured my brother was just going off the deep-end once again.

Let me pause and introduce myself, I am Marv's younger sister Milli- anyway, we tend to have differing opinions about things and the things that we do agree on, is usually a different passion for.

In saying that, I have to say that I TOTALLY AGREE with his anger and frustration to what Bill Cosby has said. It seems to me that he has become entirely "TOO AMERICAN" and has started to BLAME THE VICTIM.

I understand that black people need to take more responsibility for where they are, but let's put the responsibility where it needs to be, it's not the language, it's not our actions (per se) it's in the fact that we have lost our FIGHT. We don't fight to talk the way we want, we don't fight for better education, we don't fight for parental guidance, we don't fight to move the police out of our communitites so the people can be back in the windows, so the children can be fearful of their apperance and their family's appearance. We have lost the fight to gather, we have lost the fight of ignorance to ourselves as well as our opressors. We have lost our drive for a better BLACK COMMUNITY.

Yes, we do have issues in our community that needs addressing, yes we do have issues (as you can see I'm saying issues and not problems) in our communities that should be viewed as unacceptable to us as black people, however, if we are going to attack those issues and place any type of blame, then we need to blame the people who have no other choice. We need to blame the system that encourages young woman to believe that the only love they can receive is the love from a man instead of teaching them that they need to love themselves and not only loving themselves but also understanding that it's the only love that truly matters.

We, and when I say we I mean Americans, tend to blame the victim ALL THE TIME- it's not the black communities fault that we have the conditions that we do, instead we are a product of the conditions that have been placed on us. So don't blame the community for it's issues, instead if any blame is to be placed on the community it most definately would be that we have lost the FIGHT TO GAIN OUR COMMUNITY AND PLACE IT IN THE HANDS OF OUR BLACK PEOPLE!!!

Now, I usually don't go on ramp pages about things, but this heated my blood, so I left a little blog (well a long blog) but it was needed. Thanks for letting me VENT!!!

Unknown said...

well stated, both the post and the comment!

Anonymous said...

think Bill Cosby is 99% correct.
I think many of th made up phonetically spelled names sound ridiculou and signal that the mom can't spell but it's in the raising of Niga (mom says it's pronounced "Ny-ja") that contributes most to her destiny....not necessarily the double constants and "accent over the e" business that we seem to so heavily favor.

On all other points with him I agree

In my opinion we have a "savior" complex. We look to someone to save us. As most are Christians, Blacks look to Jesus to save us. On earth in the absence of Dr Martin Luther King, by default it's Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. It is too hard to take responsibility for our (non) actions.
So we convince ourselves that much of who we are is someone else's fault and until the savior arrives.....we are at the mercy of our environment.

We cannot make white folks do right by us. We cannot shame or guilt them enough. They just are not "feeling it".

To blame everything that goes wrong in our community from the high drop out rate, high incarceration and murder rates to institutional racism, in my opinion is a absolute cop out.. Yes it does exist but, do we as Blacks no longer have free will? Is our spirit so subjugated by racism that we have taken to destroying our children by murder and neglect?

As Dr Dennis Kimbro once stated, if the KKK were killing our boys at the rate that "brothers" are killing each other, we would be marching and protesting in the streets. Instead, we are silent on the gangster rap mentality that has so captivated our young and cultivated a sub culture of outlaws.


"I'm blessed" in all it's variations ("have a blessed day", "be blessed") is heard all over da hood all day every day.
We really need to believe we live in an abundance and seize upon all that is available to us instead of focusing on what isn't, in this case, (white acceptance).


No one can make you feel inferior wthout your constent.

Why are we allowing it?

Anonymous said...

I think Bill Cosby is inaccurate for the most part in many of the comments that he makes. I dont think he even really knows the statistics as it relates to Black people. I think he is working off sterotypes that he adopted. This article from BAW speaks about the real statisics as it relates to Black people.
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/stateof/hutchinsonreport1019

Blaming white folks was not the point of Marvo’s blog in my opinion. I think Marvo was trying to say that if we don’t examine the situation as a whole, we will never resolve our issues. It kind of like curing a cold, but only treating the syptoms. Of course we need to do well in school! Who would argue against that? Sean Bell got shot up, and the police didn’t know if he had a job, graduated college, had a family, or was a gang banger.

How many other races spell their names phonetically? I think Nyja or Niga, is a beautiful name. I didn’t get your point. The whole English language is grammatically incorrect! The fact that we are even speaking English, Spanish, or French at its root is incorrect. I think once again to blame the mother, is a cop out, and it lets who is the blame off the hook.

Should parents be involved in school, yes. Should we raise our children with a sense of the outstanding ability to achieve yes. We should be pushing for these things everyday. But we have to understand that the system as a whole is not designed for us to operate, as long as we are in our right mind. Condoleezza Rice is a great example of that. And, her name is Condoleezza!! It don’t get more Black than that. But she is clearly out of her mind. So her name is all good, I guess. It not the name that the problem, it the people with the name, that the problem. I guess, I should walk around calling myself Toby as opposed to Raheem.

There is no way this system is going to allow Black people to make moves, if we understand our greatness, or send our whole life justifying not approaching the base of our problems. I don’t know a whole lot but I do know that what is going on isn’t right. I can’t believe, like Marvo said, that it all our fault. Or, that we aren’t doing enough to change the reality in which most of us live.

Anonymous said...

My point; "niga" as spelled, can easily be seen and pronounced
as "n----er", the small n word.

Why would one wish to give a child a name which is can so easily be confused with a negative racial epithet?

"Niga Johnson? Nigger Johnson?"..."Oh, I'm sorry I didn't know it was pronounced " NY-ja"!!"

Ny-ja Johnson
IF she had named her daughter NY-ja instead of ni-ga there would not be ANY confusion.

But I do agree that it was her choice to make.



In the case of the NY police actions, it's true they didn't know if Sean Bell was a accountant or a criminal when they shot him. The police response was wrong, tragic.

And came the background check, Sean fit the all too common stereo type and STATISTIC; high school drop out, baby daddy, unemployed, police record.

I truly believe Bill Cosby is acting out of love. He wants Blacks in America to live according to their privilege.

Instead of their (and everyone elses) dismay.

Anonymous said...

Your point about names, is not the same point that Bill Cosby was making. Bill Cosby was saying that you shouldnt name your child Nija, Nyga, or Niga because the name is easly recoginized as a black name. That at is root is self hate.

Sean Bell was about to get married. So you can ex out the baby dady part. Just because you have a police record doesnt justify being shot. What about the other two guys in the car.?

Bill Cosby comments were not completely off base, but without a historical, and political anaylses to go along with his comments it could be mis understood, as bashing the people that have already been bashed enough.

Anonymous said...

The only correction that needs to be made was that he HAD graduated high schoool. Yes, I went back and checked. However at the time of his unfortunate death he was UNmarried and thus he died a unemployed, baby daddy.

I did state I reconize that it is the mom's choice (dad often is not around) choice to make in naming Sha'londdaa. It is is on that that point I disagree with Bill Cosby.

If Sha'londdaa is loved, given positive role models,taught manners, educated and given a clear sense of right and wrong..those qualities will determine her future more than her name.

Anonymous said...

[In saying that, I have to say that I TOTALLY AGREE with his anger and frustration to what Bill Cosby has said. It seems to me that he has become entirely "TOO AMERICAN" and has started to BLAME THE VICTIM.

I understand that black people need to take more responsibility for where they are, but let's put the responsibility where it needs to be, it's not the language, it's not our actions (per se) it's in the fact that we have lost our FIGHT. We don't fight to talk the way we want, we don't fight for better education, we don't fight for parental guidance, we don't fight to move the police out of our communitites so the people can be back in the windows, so the children can be fearful of their apperance and their family's appearance. We have lost the fight to gather, we have lost the fight of ignorance to ourselves as well as our opressors. We have lost our drive for a better BLACK COMMUNITY. ]


1.We ARE Americans!
What else could Bill Cosby use as reference?
Our ancestors worked UNpaid for centuries for our status as AMERICAN citizens.

2. Why would we want to fight to "talk the way we wish to talk"?

What's up with dat?

Slang is readily part of the popular culture, so is Ebonics.

But as Americans, we should strive to write and SPEAK English well.
Where is the pay off in not doing so?

Ebonics is the language of a sub culture.

Most of us derive our income from the main one. We need to learn how to speak and write the business language;proper English.
Our individual self respect should not allow us to pursue anything less...even IF we CHOOSE to speak Ebonics or slang casually.

3.Why would we want to move the police OUT of our community? Just who would keep order then? DaShawn and his posse? Jaylen who sells drugs from his "baby momma" house?

Ideally, the elders would be the monitors in our coummunity. But too many no longer have respect for anything pr any one.
Most recently I was told it is risky to blow my horn at another car.
The way is was presented was that many have such low self esteem to even be reminded that their behavior (driving) needs caution is to risk being shot. No one is suppose to correct them.

A young gangster cannot be dissed.
So hold up traffic while you buy a snow cone...everyone else should just WAIT.
Why should you pull to the side when you can just stop in the middle of the street?

Anyone compaining will get taken care of.

Police are needed.
Parental and self control is too often lacking.


4 Agree however we have lost our fight.
We no longer seem to care about honor or dignity. We have abandoned the task that was started during the civil rights movement of the 1960's.

We have instead turned to chasing bling; in the form of drug dealing, "gangster" lifestyles and black preachers preaching prosperity.

5. Blaming the white man ain't gonna get it. HE isn't accepting blame. So long as we place our energy in trying to make HIM accountable, to change HIM, we lose time changing our own destructive behavior. Even as we address the psychological and institutional forms of racism which have so damaged our collective psyche, we must stay focused on ourselves.

We must take responsibility for our actions and the consequences/effects thereof.

We can and must live our innate privilege as Americans of African descent.

Our relatives who were held in bondage already sacrificed everything for our honor.